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lork



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Posts: 3
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Should I have re-raised ? Reply with quote

Its the 2nd hand into a live 8 man tournament. Im in Mid Pos. w/ AA. Guy to my right raises 5x the BB...I re raise to 15x the BB...everyone folds to the BB he re-raises me all in. AHA i got one! Guy to my right, who I knew had A-7 suited cause its his "favorite hand" and its the only non premium hand he'll raise w/ preflop. I was sure he was gonna lay it down but he called all in and then of course I called. The Original All-in, the BB, turns over K-10o (citing "I shouldnt have bought in...I wanted to quit" afterward). I had a perfect read on the guy to my right and he flipped A-7 suited amd everone laughed when I showed my Rockets. (anyone know the mathematical odds in this situation?) Flop comes 9-J-Q, the BB had flopped the nut straight and I was muttering on the way home.

I was more than happy to call those all ins but my only real question is should I have re-raised the guy to my right even higher and maybe make the BB reconsider? We started w/ 155 chips and I raised to 30 to play...
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pritz



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well it worked out but I would have called and waited to bet. That way hopefully you would have got more callers.
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razor



Joined: 21 Dec 2005
Posts: 3
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh? Why would you want more callers? With Aces, you want fewer callers, but bigger bets. Allowing more callers in is just asking to get beat.
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pritz



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah I always slow play pocket aces or kings. I try to get as much money as I can from those hands because they are hidden and often times if you play it right people think they have the high pair.
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chris



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 2
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see how this could ever be profitable unless you are a top level card reader and can pick up tells like a pro in live games, and can play your hand perfectly from the flop on every time.

I think you are giving too much by letting any two random cards draw against your hand cheaply. This is especially true in NL. In limit, you almost want the whole table to call-but for a raise. In NL your best hope is to get all your money in the middle heads up before the flop.
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louis



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 4
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, I would have looked to play it slower going into the flop. Call the 5x BB, and he would probably have raised 20x the BB after seeing that flop, hence giving you a chance to get out.

Despite a pair of Aces is a great starting hand, everything changes on the flop - one night you might flop a pair of aces, another night the guy sat to your right will flop the nuts.

Preflop is too early to go all-in. Nice try, nice read, but I'm too much of a tight player to go all-in preflop unless I'm short stacked near the end of a game.
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ThomasR



Joined: 19 Dec 2005
Posts: 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch, that was far too many chips into the pot without seeing the flop, my friend.

Whereas you had the starting hand, as the guys said above, it's about what comes down next that will make or break you. On occasions, your pair of aces might be enough, but the other guy has got 5 cards, just like you, to make a hand and in this case he only needed 3.

Bad luck, wasn't awful play but perhaps you were too hasty in committing to the pot.
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